Monday, November 22, 2004


I'm going to out myself this far to readers unfamiliar with my back story: I live in Vermont. You'll need to know that to understand how nauseated I feel at this news:
WASHINGTON, Nov. 17 - President Bush's nominee for attorney general, Alberto R. Gonzales, was all but guaranteed Senate confirmation today when a leading Democrat expressed fondness for the nominee and signaled that he would not stand in his way.

"I like him," Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the leading Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said today after a closed meeting with Mr. Gonzales, whom he has known as White House counsel.

"I said jokingly that the president, with the majority he has in the Senate, could have sent up Attila the Hun and got him confirmed," Mr. Leahy said. "But Judge Gonzales is no Attila the Hun; he's far from that, and he's a more uniting figure."
No, Attila the Hun was a conqueror. Alberto Gonzales is a torturer.

Contact this Senator who used to be a hero of mine and tell him what you think of moral midgets who "like" those who justify torture: Senator Leahy

This is the last straw for me.

The Democrats can go fuck themselves.
It's the only thing they're good at.


Blogger amangler said...


Step back from the ledge, my brother. Really, now, take my hand. I've got you; don't look down. Okay, now step toward the window. We'll talk about this.

You've known Pat Leahy for a long time. You've voted for the man. At least give him a little credit and some benefit of the doubt.

We shoot down Gonzalez, what do we get as a replacement? Doesn't that scare you? We are about to emerge from four dark years under Saint Ashcroft, and Shrub nominates a non-Jesus Freak, non-sex obsessed, and (thankfully) non-singing AG. Are there some repulsive aspects of his character? Of course. But wouldn't that be true of ANYONE whom Bush would consider?

This guy ain't gonna be in my bedroom, ain't gonna be smacking around the gays for fun (as far as I know), etc. He may be all up in our protections from the Man, but that would also be true of anybody.

We don't know what was said behind those closed doors. Perhaps Gonzalez has aspects of his character unknown to us. David Souter, anyone?

So take deep breaths. I feel your pain, but if you go all Nader or Badnarik on me, I might have to lock you in the Interrogation Room in your basement.

You may end up being correct. There's even pretty good odds that you're right. But it's too early to go nuclear.


10:29 AM  
Blogger Antonius said...

I'm willing to go "greater good" on a whole constellation of issues and appointments, but support for torture isn't one of them. This story literally gave me nightmares last night.

I will not say "yes" to having a war criminal as my Attorney General. They should have to roll over us in tanks before we allow that to happen. I understand the importance of compromise in politics, I also know that it is imperative to draw a line when to compromise means becoming soiled with evil.

I will not change my position on this point, or this post. The Democrats are becoming complicit in torture.

12:57 PM  
Blogger amangler said...

From Leahy's Web site:

“These confirmation hearings [for Gonzalez]will be a rare opportunity for the Senate and the public to finally get some answers on several issues for which the Administration has resisted accountability, including its use of the PATRIOT Act, the lack of cooperation with Congress on oversight, and the policies that have been rejected by the courts on the treatment of detainees.  This also may be the only remaining forum in which to examine more fully the steps that were taken to weaken U.S. policy on torture in the period that led to the prison scandals at Abu Ghraib and Afghanistan.” 

2:58 PM  
Blogger Reductio said...

Perhaps Mr Leahy simply does not realize that the hearings in the senate, where all those good things can happen, will occur even if he does not personally sell his vote to a torture supporter, thereby becoming (morally, if not perhaps under the law)an accomplice after the fact to crimes against humanity.

And "at least he's not Ashcroft" is a pretty low standard to apply for attorney general. Why not just invite Hussein to take the job, after all, he's also a torture supporter who is not Ashcroft.

All that having been said, it is remotely possible that he would not be the single worst choice on earth, and he may have some redeeming qualities. It is just that I am mostly familiar with his support of the Patriot act and of torturing prisoners. Maybe he has a larger body of work other than trampling the constitution (as adjudicated by the supreme court) or supporting crimes against humanity. But he'd really need a heck of a resume to overcome those particular flaws, like maybe if he was able to cure the sick, forgive sins, and raise the dead, then I might reconsider. Short of that it will be a hard sell.

7:51 PM  

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